Isn't thread necromancy seen as a faux pas in online communities? I've certainly seen my fair share of protestations over the years when some poor sap inadvertently comments on a long dead discussion and it would be true to say that I felt like such a fraud when I typed the first new sentences on this ancient blog. Would there even be anyone out there, save a few obscure grognards, even interested? To say I've been surprised by people's reaction is an understatement and I thank you all for the positive words you have made.
It encourages someone to set out on the wonderful journey of '80s retrogaming once more.
My other half's surprise is also worth noting and it is with her encouragement that I sit down to write today. She had a inkling that I was involved in something unfathomable (at least to her) from conversations I'd had with people in retro shops (don't kids love them?) and a chance meeting with a fellow wearing a Slaves to Darkness T-Shirt in an Essex town a few years back. "I love that Oldhammer stuff," I recall saying to this fellow leadhead before mentioning I used to write a little blog on the subject. We chatted for a minute or two and he went on his way. My little slice of heaven and I talked a little afterwards about what I used to get up and she said at the time that I should get back into it. I should have listened to her then really as the trail would have been fresher in regards to the whereabouts of my once mighty collection.
With her being my most prized miniature, only 5 foot 1 she says, I feel I have a good bedrock upon which to start. But how to begin again? In 2011 I'd been painting 40k models for some years already, though steadily put off by White Dwarf's slow demise. The infamous 'Giant Issue' finally killed it for me and I started collecting the older stuff around 2004. Still, I had brushes, paints, a lamp, access to models etc etc that I don't have today. I had a fully functioning home as well... with the little we could put together when we bought this place it is ironic that our new home is trapped in the 1980s too, and not in a good way. The stairs must have been lashed together by goblins, the bathroom would put off a Nurgle Worshipper and the kitchen looks like an insane artist went schizo with Smelly Primer across the walls.
But we have hope, and happiness and a chance to start again. Something I am wholly grateful to her for and to you, dear readers... but where to start exactly?
Getting hold of issue 108 of White Dwarf may be a symbolic beginning as that issue began my love for the subject and introduced me the worlds about which I have spent so many hours writing about, let alone painting about. It's cover adorned with the enormous shape of John Blanche's titan from Adeptus Titanicus and the tiny, scurrying struggles of the Ultra Marines (when they were spelled as two separate words).
But having thought about this over Christmas my mind keeps going back to Bob Naismith's classic Skeleton Horde and the link to my newly necromantic desires. Why this particular release you might ask? Well, it was certainly one of the first I ever had and I'm pretty sure my dad found it in some shop shortly after I read the above magazine. He showed me how to undercoat, drybrush and highlight using Humbrol paints, white spirit and an old rag. I think he painted most of them and did the shields too with wonderful leering faces just like those on the box. My attempts were beyond abysmal. My old collection contained a single early skeleton figure from this set which I repainted and added to my horde, sadly now lost.
So I guess I'm saying that the Skeleton Horse represents new beginnings.
It was a tribute to those early times and thankfully was photographed and uploaded to this blog. Its been wonderful rediscovering all the stuff I did back then and it is a shame I didn't have the foresight to photograph everything I completed. I'd love a record of what I achieved.
A while later Skeleton Army appeared and sent my friends and I insane with creativity. I loved the chariot and the archers but I was let loose with no skills and a lot of poly-cement (the stuff that used to melt the plastic and send up little whiffs of smoke as you glued it together) and a lot of white paint. My brush applied undercoat was so thick that most of the detail was obscured and I followed it up with a pigmentless wash over the top. In my impatience much of the undercoat wasn't even dry and the finished results were an abomination though probably, on reflection, good enough for listing on eBay and being pro-painted.
I knew I could do better and I came back to these models time and time again and once owned several sets of untouched plastic Skeleton Hordes. If memory serves I painted at least 10 (figures, not boxes) of them up for a game in which they were promptly wiped out early on by Warlord Paul.
The first step on any journey is sometimes the most challenging. Having glanced around eBay for a sniff of a Skeleton Horde sprue I found myself laughing at the wasteland that the site has become. Endless Buy-It-Nows for re-mortgage prices and sets of models that looked worse than my first, pathetic attempts.
Is this the world you created for yourselves gamers?
Nevertheless, I will endeavour on getting my hands on a few plastic skellies in the near future, either an original sprue or some old unwanted things to restore. I can then get a few simple paints to get myself started and a couple of brushes. A lamp can be borrowed from work too.
Googling the old Coat d'Arms paints (which were very similar to the old school GW ones) I can see they are still sold by Essex Miniatures?Black Hat etc so it should be possible to get a black, white, bone and a brown colour to get started. Old citadel shields will be more difficult but I might be lucky enough to find some unwanted models with them still attached.
If you can think of any other websites or resources that would be of help then you have my appreciation and thanks.
See you soon,
Orlygg
Just wanted to say thank you for coming back. It is such good news to know about you that i take this as the best present i will get this year. Most curious thing is that, when i decided to start painting again on 2020, after being fired from my job, just before covid lockdown, i also chose old skelletons. You might take a look at my blog as there is a direct link to the skellies showcase on the main page. I am really looking forward to see your inspiring posts published again.
ReplyDeleteThank you so much fanskaven... what is it about the skellies that urge us to paint them? Their simplicity? Their versatility? Those grinning skulls? I followed your advice and checked out your blog. I like the red spot colour you used on your undead but you skeleton pikemen really impressed me and are a great use of those lances from Skeleton army.
DeleteThank you so much for taking the time to check my blog. My pikemen
Deleteare built from standard skeleton sprue arms and 15mm metal pikes i bought from my local hobby shop. Please make my day and give love to your skellie.
You are clearly a man who loves his undead. I didn't realise that pikemen were conversions so very well done to you.
DeleteGreat to see you back! Your blog inspired me to start my own, back in 2015. Gosh, I can’t believe it’s been 10 years now. I still remember, fondly, that the Skeleton Horde box was one of the first sets that fell victim to my inexperienced 10 year-old hands. I suspect that my results following the use of polystyrene cement were much the same as yours!
ReplyDeleteI expect many a set fell victim to to that disgusting stuff. Discovering liquid poly was life changing when the later plastics came out
DeleteI know where both of those first two pieces of artwork by JB are ;-)
ReplyDeleteI hope they are valued and cherished works on full display (:
DeleteThey are indeed. I won't publicly post here as the owner (an ex GW legend) owns a lot of JB, Wayne England and Russ Nicolson originals. But feel free to PM me on Facebook.
DeleteAhhh, in that case I think I know about who you are referring to. I spoke to one individual in times past who owned a flat and received artworks in lieu of rent back in the glory days. What a collection to hang on the plaster if I'm correct!
DeleteAlways loved your Blog and really happy to see you back. I can happily supply you a chariot and a sprue of skeletons if you want some.
ReplyDeleteYou are very kind sir and I am glad this blog has been of some service to you.
DeleteGenuine offer on the skeletons. You can DM me on instagram under dazza36dazza.
DeleteAgain, thank you for the offer but I'd have no idea how to use instagram at all!!!
DeleteWhite Dwarf #108 was a treasure indeed. Heck, all the White Dwarf issues from that period are and I still refer to them when the opportunity arises. Those old plasric skeleton models were simply peerless at the time. One can make the argument that in some ways they still are.
ReplyDeleteI've said this and others have too, the old Citadel plastic skeletons are, perhaps, the greatest ever made... why do I think that? The simple 'Jason and the Argonauts' stylings they have. No silly bits of rusty armour or decrepid chainmail... just a skeleton with a believable selection of weapons. As Fanskaven has done, those weapons are easily convertible with a bit of work.
DeleteGlad you are back. I've been away a while too but am gradually reintroducing blog reading back into my diet.
ReplyDeleteOh hello Leadhead... a name from the past... and the long past too. Its great to hear from you and see you are still around. Yes, there is something very civilised about a blog. These days every website seems to drown in glaring, blaring unwanted ads from people's 'commercial partners'. But not so much here. So more blogging and blog reading is a fantastic antidote to that.
DeleteWhen rogue trader launched the Nottingham store (in the old Broadmarsh centre) had a set of plastics skellies that someone had niftily converted into sci-fi minis. If I recall they had used something like the spears or scythe handles to form double barrelled shotguns, lasguns and similar. I saw them being mowed down in a demonstration game on launch day against a small number of marines. This was a time when GW stocked all sorts of other fantasy adjacent stuff and so the GM had some big plastic dinosaurs roaming the board alongside some Japanese robots. Good times! As an aside if you’d like some free WDs and a few minis to restart your journey let me know. Looking to clear a bit of space so I can quickly fill it up with more (hopefully more focused) junk :)
ReplyDeleteThank you for your generosity... I never managed to get to a GW back in the '80s era. But it was a time of the fantasy shoppe in most larger towns. My local was in Boscombe in Dorset and it was called Wonderworld... and what a wonder it was to see that wall of blisters, the rulebooks, boxsets and paints.
DeleteSearching through blisters for previously unseen minis was a hobby in itself! Let me know if you are interested in the free stuff and I’ll get it in the post to you.
DeleteI would be very grateful for anything you can spare
DeleteBest way to contact you direct?
DeleteOh, sorry... the email address of this blog can be found underneath the picture of the White Dwarf clock at the top
DeleteGood to see you back. Big follower/lurker for years. Can't wait to see what you have coming.
ReplyDeleteWhen I was a lad, it was always better to post in an existing thread than to start a new one. Many are the ways that have been lost to time, but old-fashioned netiquette is a thing I miss more than most.
ReplyDeleteI too have fond memories of that off-white plastic Skeleton sprue - those were my first WFB models, although mine came later, in the pocket money Herohammer boxes at a fiver a time. I also hold a deep contempt for the "I had too much money THEN so I deserve more money NOW" crowd who were able to buy models, forget about them for thirty years and now seem to think they've done something that adds value. The swine.
Happy New Year Von... I see you are a fellow fan of the Naismith skellies and dislike the 'look what I've amassed crowd' too. Having had loads and lost loads is quite freeing and exciting actually. Not being weighed down by the leadpile makes what you do have more involving.
DeleteYes, I know how you feel. The 'collecting as a business model' nonsense that exists now. The Youtubers who beg poverty with shelves of retro software, games, models etc propped up behind them. Years ago I visited a chap who did videos online and he was interested in my being involved and I asked about his wall of goodies... half the boxes were empty and he just bought empty shells to appear more genuine... I've not heard the term 'netiquette' but I like it! The thing that bugs me now are the walls and walls of ads that choke up websites and social media... thankfully something that blogger doesn't seem to be full of.
ReplyDeleteGreat to see you posting again and best of luck on your new quest! eBay seems to have gone up another notch in terms of prices since even a few years ago, although there is still the occasional (relative) bargain to be had.
ReplyDeleteIf it's any consolation a lot of it is probably down to you in having done so much to promote Oldhammer in the early days... :) No, what I meant to say is that there is an upside to the increased popularity, in that there are far more options these days in terms of suppliers. My immediate thoughts though are lead shields, which aren't really what you want on a plastic skelly.
Any shield will do... and certainly did back then. I remember tracing around the thin plastic boxes that toys, chocolate and stuff was wrapped in back then with the old citadel shields and simply cutting more out. Painted them black with a squibble on for a pattern and it was good to go. I guess it depends if you are a purist.
DeleteI think the first white dwarf I saw was pumping these recently released plastic skeletons, with cavalry AND a chariot. Compared to the monopose plastic fantasy box they had with a mix of something like 8 races this box was GREAT. It's no wonder so many are still in the wild. A great starting point in my mind.
ReplyDeleteYou are speaking of skeleton army... a mesmerizing release and many a school boy's dream. Loads of my friends got that set, even those who weren't really into Warhammer. In all my years of collecting I never got my hands on a set. Still, that can be a positive thing ... as there is still one of the 'hobby holy-grails' out there.
DeleteGood to see you back fella, sorry about all the family problems but hope it sorts itself out. This blog got me back into GW when I found it on a slow afternoon in work about 3 years ago. I'm very slowly putting together the dwarf and Skaven armies I wanted as a kid, but could never afford.
ReplyDeleteAll the best, and I hope you keep writing.
Thank you Gambrinus. I am glad that this blog go to involved in a long held ambition. I cannot think of a nicer project than old '80s Jes Goodwin Skaven. Good luck in your army build my friend.
DeleteMy best Old hammer Blog still alive :)
ReplyDeletePlease continue writing in this place :)
Coloured Dust
I have started writing once again with my first project in many years... recreating the Skeleton Horde.
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