Showing posts with label Zaragoz. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Zaragoz. Show all posts

Tuesday, 8 September 2015

Oldhammer Bookclub: Characters from Zaragoz devised for Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay


Hello all. Blog posts are a bit thin on the ground in early September here at the Realm of Chaos 80s. I have gone back to school after the long summer break and things are very intensive. Long days, but I am really enjoying teaching Year 2 (that is 5 and 6 year olds) again after my previous stint with the older children.

Following on from the last post concerning Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay comes this, thanks to Mr. Kevin Green, who provided details about where in the White Dwarf archive further references can be found about Zaragoz. 

The article comes from an irregular series which was, to all terms and purposes, the final load of WFRP material published in the magazine. They used characters from the GW Books line and gave them a roleplaying twist so they could be used in your own adventures. The article we are looking at here appeared in issue 119 of WD and detailed the four 'main' characters of Zaragoz (an interestingly, three of the characters we discussed as part of bookclub) namely, Orfeo, Estevan Sceberra, Semjaza and Arcangelo. 



I reckon it would be pretty simple to convert these stats to Warhammer Third Edition and actually have these characters take part in scenarios of my own devising. Orfeo, the well travelled troubadour, and Semjaza the wizard are probably best game-wise but what of suitable models in the Citadel range?

If you have any ideas - let me know!

Orlygg

Saturday, 22 August 2015

An Oldhammer Bookclub: A Review of Brain Craig's Zaragoz


This post has been a while in coming, despite me having completed Zaragoz over two weeks ago. It must have been by third or fourth read through ( I cannot quite recall) since 1997 when I discovered a copy of the Boxtree edition in an Exeter bookshop. At that time, the book seemed to me a sad relic of what GW used to be about and I often felt that I was the only person in the world who preferred the old, 1980s style of Warhammer. 

How wrong I later turned out to be, eh?

So Zaragoz is a familiar tale to me. Though it must be said, that with each reading I have discovered something new about the book, so re-reading the novel is more than worthwhile in my opinion. But if you discount the fact that the book is linked so strongly to Oldhammer and '80s Games Workshop, is it actually any good?

We all know that answering such a question is going to be a personal judgement, rather than hard fact. Especially if you are looking for something different in Warhammer fiction. If you haven't read the book, there are no massive pitched battles, little carnage and the focus is very much on atmosphere rather than long action sequences.

I know that other members of the community are interested in contributing to this discussion. I order to help with this I have developed a series of questions that I intend to answer in this post. You can choose to cheery-pick any of these questions to add your own contributions below in the comments section, on on the accompanying Facebook thread, or indeed, do you own full blown blog post about the novel.

1) Did the book engage you immediately or did it take time to draw you in?
2) What was your overall 'feeling' about the novel once it was complete? Amused, sad, confused, disturbed etc?
3) Pick a character - are their actions justified?
4) Do you feel your character 'changes' during the course of the story? If so, in what ways?
5) Is the overall plot engaging?
6) How did the book's structure affect you as you read? Did you appreciate the 'interludes'? 
7) Which passage in the book strikes you as being the most poignant or memorable? 


Right, here I must state that SPOILERS are indeed ahead of us. So if you haven't yet read Zaragoz you might want to find something else to do here. Without any further ado, let's open the book and get talking.....


Opening up one of the first edition novels is always a pleasure. I love the attention to detail and really appreciate the lengths GW Books went with the illustrations with the first run of novels. The art was suitably dark and baroque and akin to some of the better Fighting Fantasy work we all poured over in the 1980s. The cover and frontispiece were produced by the legendary Ian Miller, title page art by the brilliant Tony Ackland while the internal illustrations, of which there are many, are by the wonderful Martin McKenna. 

Quite a pedigree. But what of Brian Craig? If you didn't know, he is a pseudonym of Brian Stableford, a prolific and well known science-fiction and fantasy author. So no hack this. And if you are coming from more recent Black Library efforts the literary style might come as a bit of a shock. In fact, it was the lack of quality writing the ultimately turned me away from BL, though I cannot praise Dan Abnett enough.  


1) Did the book engage you immediately or did it take time to draw you in?

A difficult question to answer considering I have read the book before, but I can honestly say I enjoyed reading the novel even more with this read through. Perhaps it was because I knew the characters and the main thrust of the plot I was able to appreciate the little details that are often missed on an initial read through. Despite being very knowledgeable of the overall story, I found I was very quickly drawn into the relationship between Orfeo and his captor, Alkadi Nasreen. Sure, its a riff on the One Thousand and One Nights (and the Warhammer version of this story is even referenced here) but serves very well in my opinion as a method of tying the three stories together. 

The premise of Nasreen having a brother present in Zaragoz was also very interesting, and I can recall with pleasure my initial read through all those years back trying to second guess who this sibling may or may not be. 

The initial chapters in which Orfeo explores Zaragoz are also enjoyable and you get a strong sense that chaos is indeed lurking around (and beneath) the city, but you are never directly told what this evil is which, again, gets your mind working. The setting (based on a small Estalian city-state) is also intriguing and makes a real change from 'another story set in the Empire' syndrome. 

So yes, I was engaged immediately. 


2) What was your overall 'feeling' about the novel once it was complete? Amused, sad, confused, disturbed etc?

Satisfied, I suppose. I like the character of Orfeo and I have always appreciated that the first story in the trilogy concerns him, otherwise he would have just appeared as a ghostly entity used to join together three rather different tales. I enjoyed the slow development of the 'destruction from beneath the crag' theme that builds through the story and that it alludes to rats (and perhaps skaven) as well as far worse things. 

Brian Craig doesn't over use the Warhammer backgrounds wealth of super evil daemons either, and creates his own Howardesque 'white apes' as a foil to Orfeo's journey through the ancient cave system below Zaragoz. When the forces of chaos do appear. their origins are left rather vague, and the art by Mckenna tells you more about their nature than the text does, though knowledge of the mythos allows you to suspect Slaanesh worship is at the base of all that is evil. 

I also enjoyed the series of 'mysteries' Brain Craig clears up at the end of the novel. Arcangelo's fate for instance and right at the end, the identity of Nasreen's brother - which in turn leads you into thinking how will Orfeo's involvement with Semjaza affect his future captivity. Some things are merely alluded to, and this is nice - such as the strange black leech like thing Arcangelo uses to destroy Semjaza - what is it??


3) Pick a character - are their actions justified?

I am going to select Arcangelo here. We first meet him at the beginning of the story as he is affronted by a group of bandits. Looking like a mere priest, Orfeo becomes involved in the plot by simply stepping out of the woods in defence of what appears to be a vulnerable traveller. Together, they deal with the incompetent footpads and strike up a friendship of necessity along the road towards Zaragoz. It is Arcangelo who tells Orfeo that the Night of Masks is soon to be celebrated in Zaragoz and that his talents with song and lute may well be appreciated. Of course, subsequent read throughs allow you to wonder if these suggestions are not just the easy conversation of a fellow (and grateful traveller) but the calculations of a man who would stop at nothing to enact vengeance on his enemies.

During your initial read through, Brian Craig lets you believe the Arcangelo has been defeated by his enemies - that Semjaza, and the powers he wields, have crushed the weaker follower of Law. First in the House of Cordova, and later beneath the crag of Zaragoz itself. You never 'see' the destruction of Arcangelo, instead the hideous scream is used to signify his end. At the time, you assume that the scream is caused by the pain inflicted by Semjaza's magic, but by the end of the novel you are left doubting. Was that the scream of a man who has just sold his soul to Chaos?

Returning to the question, is Arcangelo's pact with chaos in order to destroy his enemies justified? I would say on a personal level, no. Who would want their soul as a plaything for that likes of Slaanesh, eh? But for the other characters; Orfeo, Cordova and Serafima, I cannot see how they would have been saved without Arcangelo's terrible sacrifice. So he could appear to be a selfless hero who would stop at nothing (even the condemnation of his own soul) in the quest to protect his friends. However, I see a little of the obsessive in Arcangelo. And the temptations of chaos are manifold and tempting. 


4) Do you feel your character 'changes' during the course of the story? If so, in what ways?

I think I have answered a fair bit of this question previously. Arcangelo does indeed change in your perception of him during the novel, but his true character remains ultimately the same. To begin with, he seems but a weak priest, not lacking in courage mind, set upon a path who's ending he cannot possibly reach, his enemies are just too powerful! 

His sudden reappearance halfway through the tale as Orfeo and Falquero's rescuer is unexpected and makes you re-evaluate him. How did he recover from Semjaza's attack? What means does he use to escape the prison beneath Zaragoz? It is suggested that Arcangelo descends the terrible hole that leads to the darkness below, and makes his pact with the powers of darkness there. So perhaps, that is the moment that he changes. From hero of 'good' to one who is now soiled by the horrors of chaos. 

Be the end of the tale, Arcangelo is gone. Destroyed by his own pact but the fruits of his actions steer the story towards its conclusion. He awakes the magic within the fabric of the building of the House Cordova that protects Orfeo and his friends and hopes, in time, to bring peace and justice to Zaragoz itself. In a philosophical aside, I think it is Orfeo who points out that 'goodness' and 'justice' ultimately depend on which side of the argument you stand, and despite Cordova being raised as the new Duke - injustices and intrigues with remain forever. 


5) Is the overall plot engaging?

Yes, I think that it is. Though there are no set piece battles the classic 'good verse evil' theme runs through the tale, and as always, you hope that the 'goodies' win. What makes it a little more interesting is that fact that many of the positive characters (such as Orfeo and Arcangelo) end stained by the influence of chaos. We have discussed the affect dealings with the Dark Gods has on Arcangelo, but on Orfeo they are subtler. He finds his way into the bed of Morella d'Arlette, a noble of Zaragoz with a taste for the pleasures of Slaanesh, and due to the spell cast by her during sexual intercourse, is bound to be a pawn in her desires. I have read elsewhere that the sex scene and its later references were edited out by the Black Library when it was later reprinted, though without a Black Library copy in my collection I cannot be exact about what is altered. 

Events build up slowly and develop towards the Night of Masks itself. You know from the offset even on the first reading that Orfeo must survive, he recounts the tale after all, but you are still trying to work out who Nesreen's brother is until the very end. The dramatic events at the celebration itself are suitably exciting and the deaths of the villains suitably graphic and unusual. 

All the pieces are nicely woven together in this conclusion and just enough is left unexplained to leave you thinking. 


6) How did the book's structure affect you as you read? Did you appreciate the 'interludes'? 

Overall, I like the structure of the novel. The story within a story just adds to the drama in my opinion anyway. And as I have yet to read the final novel in the sequence, Storm Warriors, I still don't know how Orfeo escapes even after twenty years of being a fan of the novels! 

I find that the interludes help break up the story and help build on the 'who is Nesreen's brother?' mystery. It also introduces some suitable peril for Orfeo, who's survival at Zaragoz is assured before the tale begins.  


7) Which passage in the book strikes you as being the most poignant or memorable? 

I would easily say Chapter Thirteen and the discussion about good and evil between Orfeo and Semjaza is the stand out moment in the novel for me. The wizard remarks that the Warhammer World is just a mere crack in some mystical wall and the whims of men are as relevant to the higher powers as the insects that reside within the walls of our dwellings. 

He says:
"Put crude thoughts of good and evil out of your mind, and try to move beyond such silly ways of thinking - beyond even thoughts of order and chaos. In the true way of seeing, the authentic excitement of existence lies not in the feeding of the animal appetites but in reaching beyond the petty stupidities of ordinary life, in feeling the awesomeness of the greater world, and in bringing just a little of the intoxication of that greater existence into the narrow confines of our lesser one."

Semjaza's argument is a convincing one and shows just how alluring the powers of chaos can be. But is it 'the truth', or just the thoughts of an individual already seduced by the dark powers of the warp?

Overall Score: 4/5 - A worthy read, and a very good start for Orfeo, but not the best of the GW Books novels. 

So what do you think about the novel Zaragoz? Feel free to add your own contributions here, in the Facebook Group or in your own way. You need not follow my questions either. But your thoughts would be very welcome indeed. 

Orlygg.

Friday, 10 July 2015

Oldhammer Bookclub: Re-reading Zaragoz by Brian Criag



I had to have a huge molar pulled out this week. The damn tooth had been troubling me since May and despite my dentist's valiant efforts with fillings, antibiotics and desensitising toothpaste, the thing just had to go. 

Whilst I was contemplating my imminent date with the dentist's needle in the waiting room, I noticed a small card sign (neatly handwritten in this age of the ubiquitous computer print out) inviting any interested parties attending a local book club. 

The purpose of this club was briefly described, and I paraphrase: "To get together some likeminded fans of contemporary women's fiction and discuss a monthly novel in detail." 

As I was called up into the surgery, I mulled over whether or not this would be a possibility for the Oldhammer Community. After all, there are a lot of us now and mention of the original fiction crops up every now and again. But do the old books have enough fans?

My interest in such a project was piqued further when I read Matthew Sullivan's erudite blogpost about the Lord of the Rings. Its well worth a read and can be found here.

http://www.oldenhammer.com/2015/07/reading-along-with-lord-of-rings-shadow.html

Anyway, back on the topic of the old Games Workshop novels.

I have written before about the forerunner to the Black Library before. They were called GW Books and they were in existence for about 1989 to about 1991. If you are a stranger to the range, don't expect a style similar to the more modern books. An attempt was made to entise 'real' fantasy and science fiction authors to contribute short stories and novels set within the Warhammer Mythos.

The best entry point to learn about this range is Stephen Baxter's Freedom in an Owned World. Its an excellent article and well worth a read.

So where am I going with this? Well, my intention is clear. As the summer holidays are nearly here, I plan to re-read one of the novels and blog about my thoughts and feelings it. I haven't yet thought about what questions we could ask once reading the book is complete and I would hope to have reader's ideas about the topics of conversation. I suspect that these questions will come more readily once the novel has been completed.

As I just said, I am hoping that one or two of you might come with me on this journey so we could discuss a novel in a little more detail. I have a sense that the Oldhammer zeitgeist, after its journey to social media, is returning once more to the place it was born, the humble blog - which is my opinion one of the better places to conduct such discussions.

So why did I choose Zaragoz?

The answer is simple, it was the 'first' Warhammer novel available (alongside the Ignorant Armies Anthology) way back when, and was a major event for me. A proper story, a grown up story, set in the world I loved.

I still love that very different Warhammer World to this day.

Let me know if you would be interested in this project. The novel is very easy to locate online and is fairly cheap. There are also multiple editions - though that won't actually matter once we get set to discussing it, bar a few illustration that were specially commissioned for the first edition.

Shall we give ourselves say the month of July to get hold of the book and read it and plan to get talking by mid August?

Let me know if you are up for this!

Orlygg