I certainly do! And I have known for sometime that a copy of the late '80s publication was lost somewhere in the impenetrable maze that is my garage. Quite by accident, I stumbled across it looking for some gardening tools still housed in the sturdy box in which it arrived.
Its not my original copy (I cannot recall what happened to that) but it's an eBay find that I paid for, received and then misplaced soon after quite some years ago. I am glad that I've found it again as it is packed full of really useful stuff for the Oldhammer gamer. Nor is this the first time I have written about this set, for way back when in the early days of this blog I posted up some high quality scans of a few of the components. Have a look:
http://realmofchaos80s.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/dungeon-floor-plans-old-school-gaming.html
Opening up the book reveals that the set has been entirely cut out, though not by me, and is presented as quite a jumble. We have good quality scans of Warhammer Townscape but try as I might, I cannot find a similar resource for the floor plans. Anyone know of one? I'd like to browse through such a document to check up on what I have, and any missing pieces, though from vague memory I think I have most of the large rooms as far as I can tell.
Of course, back in 1989 this wasn't really a new product. It was a collection of pieces from previous releases ( Dungeon Floor Plans 1, Dungeon Lairs, Caverns and Dungeon Rooms) that might as well have been launched in Ancient Rome for all their availability to me. And as a gamer whose teeth were cut on Heroquest, the options this book provided you with was immense. It still is...
This photograph shows you JUST the corridor sections that the book provided. Of course, these sections were cut out by the previous owner but they did a decent job and there are a great number of instantly usable sections, some better looking than others. I mean, I just love the yellow and grey stone sections (and I have a feeling that there was more yellow that I have in the original uncut set) and they remain perfect for representing tunnels or dungeons quickly in games of Old School ( or even New) Warhammer or Rogue Trader. The pale grey stuff is very poor in comparison and to my eyes, looks basic and crappy.
In addition to the tunnels themselves, there are steps, ladders, chasms, rivers, sewage slicks, stairways and not to mention a wealth of smaller detail cards containing doors, shields, bloodstains, traps and so on. Just this part of the publication makes it a very useful thing to own and use.
But its just half of what the set contains.
The second half of the set contains all of the dungeon rooms and chambers. These are extremely varied and the quality of the design and printing still holds up today, especially when you consider so many people use printers and photocopiers to get hold of out of print materials easily. Just casting your eye over many of these designs gets my creative flair racing and you can devise a wealth of intriguing scenarios for players in minutes.
My son, who is five, found the Dungeon Floor plan set utterly fascinating and spent some time exploring each of the rooms. Without me needing to explain how the set worked, he constructed his own dungeon using the linking strips to make corridors. Bad monsters lived there, he told me with authority. It's that easy to use.
I struggled to get the whole set into a single frame and this is as close as I could get! As you will have seen, this is a fantastic resource and well worth tracking down if you can, or indeed digging out of your archive if you have one buried away. I have seen people make use of the tiles from Advanced Heroquest and Warhammer Quest at Oldhammer events, but I feel that this floor plan set is superior to both of those due to the sheer variation. And apart from a few duff corridor sections in the grey there is little to complain about really.
Time to build a dungeon!
Orlygg
It's a great set! I still use it for various games.
ReplyDeleteI actually dug out the set to use some of the pieces to represent the interior of a watchtower and cottage this week. I certainly plan to utilise them in future scenarios.
DeleteI love that room art... I think (??) some of it is by John Blanche. Anyway, it is iconic.
ReplyDeleteI've been trying to think of a way to integrate these floorplans into a miniature skirmish game. I haven't received my copy yet, but I have high hopes for the new Otherworld Miniatures skirmish rules (enhanced with some beautiful looking artwork by Zhu).
Thank you for the infor about Blanche, as I struggled to work out who created the artwork for the set, though as you say its going to be multiple artists, isn't it? As I said in my post, they only duff bits are a few ropy corridors in grey. You cannot go wrong with this set, if you can find it!!
DeleteAfter seeing the b/w photo of the "Moon Duke" battling orcs in a tunnel section (WFRP Core Book, pg 115) from this set, I became obsessed with tracking down a copy of these Dungeon Floor Plans. I love the Warhammer Quest tiles, too, but you're right --- they don't hold a light to this set!
ReplyDeleteI know the photograph you refer to! And I loved it too, back in the day! Those pictures really inspire the idea of games inside caves or dungeon areas.
DeleteI was fortunate enough to acquire and original box of the Dungeon Rooms - lovely art, timeless. A treat to see a complete collection :)
ReplyDeleteIs it complete? I would love to have a mint copy to refer to...
DeleteSo nearly a month later, recent comments reminded me! My apologies! Here are two links to photos of the set listing in the booklet:
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http://eastern-empire.com/wp-content/gallery/forums/dungeon-rooms2.jpg
What a great product! I really like the Rogue Trader/Judge Dredd set as well. These along with the card buildings that came out around the same time period were great stuff.
ReplyDeleteNow you mention it, I can recall ads for JD floor plans but I never saw any beyond that. Yes, the Warhammer Townscape set released around the same time as these plans was also seminal to third edition Warhammer.
Deletewow nice find, I used to have some of those years and years ago, no idea what happened to mine either, had the game Mighty Warriors GW put out in the very late 80s'/early 90's which used the figures from Advanced Hero Quest, that used some of the full room floorplans from one of those sets, again, no idea what I did with that set either, damn it!
ReplyDeleteSome of the Advanced Heroquest expansions included a few of those larger rooms as special quest rooms on thick card stock to match the normal AHQ corridor tiles.
ReplyDeleteHi there,
ReplyDeleteare you still looking for a (almost) mint copy of the Dungeon Floor Plans? I just rediscovered mine and when I was looking for some information about it I found this great webpage!
Anyway. Drop me a line if you still need some info.
Regards
Moshe Pit