tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3283315887973123007.post4755495748425844243..comments2024-03-28T06:24:07.932-07:00Comments on Realm of Chaos 80s: Acceptable in the '80s: Skaven background and miniaturesOrlygghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01590080915486192175noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3283315887973123007.post-33019447245094673772019-09-08T12:31:16.103-07:002019-09-08T12:31:16.103-07:00Ask might be a bit extreme, ask the core fluff is ...Ask might be a bit extreme, ask the core fluff is closer to the mark ;)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00909918821021798025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3283315887973123007.post-79528765092260777612019-09-08T11:41:22.242-07:002019-09-08T11:41:22.242-07:00Very late on this thread but have been reading in ...Very late on this thread but have been reading in quiet moments in reverse chronological order. Thought it would be worth mentioning that all the shaven/ratmen fluff is lifted root and stem from a Fritz Leiber book called "the swords of Lankhmar". Well worth a read of you are interested in origins and a good read even if you're not. Love the blog by the way!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00909918821021798025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3283315887973123007.post-86853543257298287792015-02-17T07:37:03.632-08:002015-02-17T07:37:03.632-08:00yep, and if you want humour in your 40K just read ...yep, and if you want humour in your 40K just read the Caphais Cain series, A Commissar who want's a nice cushy desk job! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16215536877653190810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3283315887973123007.post-32275670975115534352014-07-27T11:11:38.345-07:002014-07-27T11:11:38.345-07:00I think the scenario was Dwarfs was it not? It int...I think the scenario was Dwarfs was it not? It introduced a rough idea of Runes.Snickithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12043252668515117665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3283315887973123007.post-84205182329779454242014-07-27T11:10:29.673-07:002014-07-27T11:10:29.673-07:00As someone who loves the furry little b#ggers I...As someone who loves the furry little b#ggers I'd say yes they're meant to be evil and they conduct experiments with gas. People play Germans in WWII games so what's so bad about Skaven being Nazi'ish?<br /><br />Rogue Trader certainly had facist overtones, just look at Commissars!!!!!!!Snickithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12043252668515117665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3283315887973123007.post-45163962241643794192014-06-30T11:46:14.048-07:002014-06-30T11:46:14.048-07:00As the emphasis switched, so did the in-jokes and ...As the emphasis switched, so did the in-jokes and comic touches. Interestingly, Oldhammer is full of in-jokes and comic touches too, as anyone who has seen a photograph of Chico will know. Orlygghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01590080915486192175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3283315887973123007.post-91751523469005803452014-06-30T11:44:31.001-07:002014-06-30T11:44:31.001-07:00Poor old Swatsikas. Maligned by the Nazis, I know ...Poor old Swatsikas. Maligned by the Nazis, I know that they are an important Hindu symbol. I have seen Victorian Raj influenced buildings with them on in this country. But then, Hitler and his plonker cronies stole much of their symbolism from history and even Hollywood movies (the Nazi Salute, apparently) only to twist it to their fascist ends. Orlygghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01590080915486192175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3283315887973123007.post-22277136986109733362014-06-30T11:41:42.951-07:002014-06-30T11:41:42.951-07:00Nothing like a plastic Skaven for building up the ...Nothing like a plastic Skaven for building up the armies> i recall going to Wonder World in Bournemouth and buying two boxes of Warhammer Regiments. All my friends did too that summer and we all swap the models so we had massive (in our eyes) armies of goodies and baddies. Orlygghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01590080915486192175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3283315887973123007.post-14965681839611889252014-06-30T07:03:36.792-07:002014-06-30T07:03:36.792-07:00Don't forget the Skaven launch article in the ...Don't forget the Skaven launch article in the Citadel Journal #3. A lot of good stuff in that one. Graeme Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14460200772136298249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3283315887973123007.post-54855320562679438072014-06-30T02:42:02.781-07:002014-06-30T02:42:02.781-07:00Was this about the time when WD was publishing loa...Was this about the time when WD was publishing loads (relatively speaking) of scenarios for Advanced HeroQuest? I always wondered if the Skaven were intended to replace the Fimir (a bit too much for kids) as GW 'signature' fantasy race. <br /><br />But re: the echo, at least, of a swastika on the shields, I've written elsewhere that I find GW's evolving approach towards 'safe for kids' curious. In 40K, for example, I feel that RT made it clear that the Imperium were the space Nazis - the ghoulish, disturbing picture of the Emperor being ingrained in my imagination - and there was plenty of dark, satiric humour too. Later 40K seems to ramp up the fascist iconography while stripping away the humour (especially the overt satire) and, as the books are deadpan, almost in-universe artifacts, they don't have the same sort of nods and winks from the authors. Andy Bartletthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06683770320671028815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3283315887973123007.post-29774347900185646742014-06-29T22:28:54.269-07:002014-06-29T22:28:54.269-07:00The Skaven symbol isn't a tetragammadion/tetra...The Skaven symbol isn't a tetragammadion/tetraskelion, but a triskelion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triskelion , though it does bear a resemblance to the one used by the Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging.Condottiero Magnohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11667975415138333878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3283315887973123007.post-59688371988754182412014-06-29T14:49:36.897-07:002014-06-29T14:49:36.897-07:00Subbing rats in for nazis explains why they have s...Subbing rats in for nazis explains why they have something very closely approximating a swastika as one of their symbols. (I remember causing some offence to the fainthearted at BOYL last year by claiming that GW used swastikas in their design, but I think it's plain as day here.)robotforadayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05302954722308521390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3283315887973123007.post-49377639269895568862014-06-29T14:18:16.572-07:002014-06-29T14:18:16.572-07:00You're right, the Black Ark does sound very In...You're right, the Black Ark does sound very Indiana Jones. It was first mentioned in the Vengence of the Lichmaster Scenario in the Spring 1986 Journal as the Black Ark of the Covenant, which is even more Indian Jones.<br />You are also correct in the general background is largely the same. It has only been added to in the last few years with the Skaven backround/painting guide books, but the basic concepts are the same. Only a few new items Ratling Guns, DoomWheel, Lighting Cannon) were added post 3rd Edition. <br />It's a great artlice and was a bit of a suprise at the time, and we thuoght it was a ploy to promote an army that was not being played a lot. If memory serves me right there was another Skaven scenario about the same time, with the new Bretonnians fighting Skaven over a burial mount with Undead. <br />The thing that interested me most about the article, and the later army and battle report in White Dwarf #137 in 1991 was the use of the plastic heroquest Skaven. This seemed to be a move to get people using the plastic Skaven to bulk out the army as an all metal Skaven army would be costly even then! (the only other plastic Skaven were in the Warhammer regiments box, and you only got 10). <br />Great blog update. I am just about to start my 1980's Skaven project, and so is a timely motivation for me :) Goblin Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14931436821182962785noreply@blogger.com